Talk:Starship Enterprise

No place for seafaring vessels

I'm sorry, StarHOG, I don't mean to single out your edits, but I undid your insertion of sea vessels. They really are not relevant under Starship Enterprise#Depiction, because this article's title limits the section's scope to depictions of starships. A reader isn't coming to this article looking for ships at sea – the title is clear on that. If somebody is looking for watercraft (or "nuclear wessels") named Enterprise, there are pages such as USS Enterprise (a long dab page), just plain Enterprise (an even longer dab page), HMS Enterprise, and List of ships of the United States Navy named Enterprise. Lwarrenwiki (talk) 15:46, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

That is totally fine. I did a lot of research on what users will land on when doing searches for Enterprise and found that this page is the most likely place a lay-person would end up, so I was trying to add some disambiguation in the article based on putting myself in one of those people's shoes. It is, after all, an encyclopedia with no space limitations so I like to err on the side of too much rather than too little. I inserted the vessels as a single line mostly as a link to these folks if they were interested in historical ships that were also named Enterprise, that our fine lady comes from a long lineage of fine ships that bear that name. But I see you point, it doesn't actually have anything to do with the fictional ships from Star Trek that this article is talking about. It is why I scraped the shuttle, it isn't fictional, or part of the universe, or anything. Just another historical ship named Enterprise and not relevant to this article. StarHOG (Talk) 16:16, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

@StarHOG: I don't share your opinion about deleting the Space Shuttle, but similarly, I see your point. I would have kept it in because it's a spacecraft, but you're entirely correct that it is not a starship either. You made a fair point, not a pointy edit, and I'm OK with that deletion. Lwarrenwiki (talk) 18:26, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Definitely not, though I can see how it may be interpreted as such. It is why I gave such a long explanation (above). StarHOG (Talk) 19:07, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

@Lwarrenwiki: could the links you mentioned be put in the "See also" section? Morriswa (Charlotte Allison) (talk) 00:40, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Description of ship

I was looking at this article to see if there was a reference to photon torpedos or energy missles and there isn't any. In fast, this article totally lacks any kind of description of what the Enterprise....well...IS. We should probably create a section that describes the common features of what a starship is. StarHOG (Talk) 14:23, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Enterprise E - Dominion War claim

I wonder about the statement it was... an active participant in the Battle of Sector 001 and the Dominion War" in the Enterprise E section. On screen the ship (nor any Sovereign Class starship for that matter) was never seen participating in the Dominion War as depicted in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. I think it was in books, but as these are generally not considered to always be canonical, I am not sure that it helps to include it - indeed I worry that it may make the casual reader think the Enterprise E did battle with the Dominion in a film or appear in DS9. Dunarc (talk) 22:50, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

"USS Zhukov (NCC-62136)" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect USS Zhukov (NCC-62136) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 28 § USS Zhukov (NCC-62136) until a consensus is reached. Hog Farm _Talk 04:02, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

In-universe template added

Much of the "Depiction" section is written closely to in-universe. Pointing to the "NX-01" example:

"Enterprise was the first Earth-built starship capable of reaching Warp 5. The ship was commanded by Captain Jonathan Archer and played an instrumental role in the founding of several proto-Federation alliances. Enterprise had significant engagements with the Klingons, Suliban, Xindi and the Romulans and played a central role in the "Temporal Cold War"."

This reads like it's out of whatever in-universe Wikipedia equivalent exists in Star Trek's universe. Needs to be re-contextualized to reflect the depiction as seen in the real world we live in. There's a few more examples sprinkled throughout.

I added a tag to the section reflecting such. Unidentifiability (talk) 02:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)